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"Nowt for owt" with Amazon
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CJB
2009-04-04 19:36:07 UTC
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"Nowt for owt" with Amazon

There is a saying in the North of England of 'nowt for owt' (rhyming
with 'out'). That is 'there is nothing for free.'

I have just been sucked into an unwanted near £48 annual premium
membership subscription by Amazon and there is no way to unsubscribe.

I use Amazon.com / .co.uk / .de to purchase various items of interest
about four times a year. I'm never in a hurry to receive these.

Just now I attempted to purchase a book and was offered the cheapest
deal from Amazon with no packing or postage if I signed up for a
'free' trial of their new premium next day membership. This was easy
to do - unsurprisingly. The p&p charges were then zeroed in my basket
details.

But then I received a response saying that payment had been declined
by VISA. Hmm - payment for a 'free' trial offer - I smelt a rat. It
also stated that an email had been sent - which I found was headed:
"Payment Declined for Amazon Prime Free Trial Membership." The rat
started to smell bad.

I checked my account details and noticed that I had on my account a
number of credit cards - all but one - now out-of-date. One of these
latter had been used for the 'free' payment - LUCKILY. The email also
stated that after the 'free' trial that my card would be charged
£47.97 for a one-year full membership!!!!

I searched the web site and could find no information about this
premium membership - only that I had inadvertantly joined it.
Worryingly I could NOT find any way to unsubscribe.

My only solution to this situation was to delete ALL of my cards'
details from my account. And I resolved NEVER to use Amazon again.
Their loss. By this time - and running out of my time at the Internet
cafe - I was very angry. The rat stank to high heaven. I trusted
Amazon with my VISA card details and they attempted to suck me into an
annual - and assumably ever increasing - membership that I had no need
for.

Let others be warned - if you smell a rat with a web site stop and
investigate further before submitting credit card details.

C.J.Brady
Peter Grange
2009-04-04 19:57:43 UTC
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Post by CJB
"Nowt for owt" with Amazon
There is a saying in the North of England of 'nowt for owt' (rhyming
with 'out'). That is 'there is nothing for free.'
I have just been sucked into an unwanted near £48 annual premium
membership subscription by Amazon and there is no way to unsubscribe.
I use Amazon.com / .co.uk / .de to purchase various items of interest
about four times a year. I'm never in a hurry to receive these.
Just now I attempted to purchase a book and was offered the cheapest
deal from Amazon with no packing or postage if I signed up for a
'free' trial of their new premium next day membership. This was easy
to do - unsurprisingly. The p&p charges were then zeroed in my basket
details.
But then I received a response saying that payment had been declined
by VISA. Hmm - payment for a 'free' trial offer - I smelt a rat. It
"Payment Declined for Amazon Prime Free Trial Membership." The rat
started to smell bad.
I checked my account details and noticed that I had on my account a
number of credit cards - all but one - now out-of-date. One of these
latter had been used for the 'free' payment - LUCKILY. The email also
stated that after the 'free' trial that my card would be charged
£47.97 for a one-year full membership!!!!
I searched the web site and could find no information about this
premium membership - only that I had inadvertantly joined it.
Worryingly I could NOT find any way to unsubscribe.
My only solution to this situation was to delete ALL of my cards'
details from my account. And I resolved NEVER to use Amazon again.
Their loss. By this time - and running out of my time at the Internet
cafe - I was very angry. The rat stank to high heaven. I trusted
Amazon with my VISA card details and they attempted to suck me into an
annual - and assumably ever increasing - membership that I had no need
for.
Let others be warned - if you smell a rat with a web site stop and
investigate further before submitting credit card details.
C.J.Brady
I signed up for that, but I managed to get out. As far as I can
remember there was an option to get out before the trial period
expired.
What Amazon may have done was go to VISA to check you are good for the
subscription, and put a hold on that subscription so you can't spend
up your card before the trial period expires so there's no money left
to pay Amazon. Quite a common occurrence in CC transactions where you
don't need to pay for 6 months or whatever. Hotels do it too for
reservations.
Brian Gaff
2009-04-05 10:28:45 UTC
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As I recall there are several ways out when I last looked. First there is a
link to terms and conditions for that premium rubbish, and I believe that
you can cancel somewhere on the checkout though you may end up with no order
altogether. I've no idea as I never sign up for this sort of rubbish.
Brian
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Post by Peter Grange
Post by CJB
"Nowt for owt" with Amazon
There is a saying in the North of England of 'nowt for owt' (rhyming
with 'out'). That is 'there is nothing for free.'
I have just been sucked into an unwanted near £48 annual premium
membership subscription by Amazon and there is no way to unsubscribe.
I use Amazon.com / .co.uk / .de to purchase various items of interest
about four times a year. I'm never in a hurry to receive these.
Just now I attempted to purchase a book and was offered the cheapest
deal from Amazon with no packing or postage if I signed up for a
'free' trial of their new premium next day membership. This was easy
to do - unsurprisingly. The p&p charges were then zeroed in my basket
details.
But then I received a response saying that payment had been declined
by VISA. Hmm - payment for a 'free' trial offer - I smelt a rat. It
"Payment Declined for Amazon Prime Free Trial Membership." The rat
started to smell bad.
I checked my account details and noticed that I had on my account a
number of credit cards - all but one - now out-of-date. One of these
latter had been used for the 'free' payment - LUCKILY. The email also
stated that after the 'free' trial that my card would be charged
£47.97 for a one-year full membership!!!!
I searched the web site and could find no information about this
premium membership - only that I had inadvertantly joined it.
Worryingly I could NOT find any way to unsubscribe.
My only solution to this situation was to delete ALL of my cards'
details from my account. And I resolved NEVER to use Amazon again.
Their loss. By this time - and running out of my time at the Internet
cafe - I was very angry. The rat stank to high heaven. I trusted
Amazon with my VISA card details and they attempted to suck me into an
annual - and assumably ever increasing - membership that I had no need
for.
Let others be warned - if you smell a rat with a web site stop and
investigate further before submitting credit card details.
C.J.Brady
I signed up for that, but I managed to get out. As far as I can
remember there was an option to get out before the trial period
expired.
What Amazon may have done was go to VISA to check you are good for the
subscription, and put a hold on that subscription so you can't spend
up your card before the trial period expires so there's no money left
to pay Amazon. Quite a common occurrence in CC transactions where you
don't need to pay for 6 months or whatever. Hotels do it too for
reservations.
DubDriver
2009-04-04 23:14:13 UTC
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"CJB" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e8305f8e-fde7-4a94-8f3c-***@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

"Click the button below to start your one-month Free Trial -- you won't be
charged now. If you want to continue after your Free Trial, do nothing. Your
benefits will automatically continue and we'll charge your payment method
(MasterCard/EuroCard*** ) £47.97 for the next year. If you prefer, you can
select "do not upgade" in the Manage Your Prime Account section of Your
Account and your payment method won't be charged. If you continue, we'll
charge your payment method annually thereafter for your full membership
unless you select "do not auto renew".

This 'how to cancel' information can be found clearly stated right above the
[Start my free trial] [No thanks] buttons if you have chosen the option from
the shopping basket or another route from pages displaying "You've
qualified: One-Day Delivery on this item is FREE with a free trial of Amazon
Prime." > next page click "learn more".
Brian Gaff
2009-04-06 08:30:07 UTC
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I think one of the major problems with the Amazon web site is that its too
busy with clutter and links and stuff. Its like having a book where the
index is mixed in with the content on every page.
They seriously need a plan!

Brian
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Post by DubDriver
"Click the button below to start your one-month Free Trial -- you won't be
charged now. If you want to continue after your Free Trial, do nothing.
Your benefits will automatically continue and we'll charge your payment
method (MasterCard/EuroCard*** ) £47.97 for the next year. If you prefer,
you can select "do not upgade" in the Manage Your Prime Account section of
Your Account and your payment method won't be charged. If you continue,
we'll charge your payment method annually thereafter for your full
membership unless you select "do not auto renew".
This 'how to cancel' information can be found clearly stated right above
the [Start my free trial] [No thanks] buttons if you have chosen the
option from the shopping basket or another route from pages displaying
"You've qualified: One-Day Delivery on this item is FREE with a free trial
of Amazon Prime." > next page click "learn more".
Grim
2009-04-06 08:05:21 UTC
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Post by CJB
"Nowt for owt" with Amazon
There is a saying in the North of England of 'nowt for owt' (rhyming
with 'out').
No there isn't. The phrase is "owt for nowt", meaning anything for nothing, or free.
Post by CJB
That is 'there is nothing for free.'
No it doesn't. "Nowt for owt" means you'll get nothing for anything.
Post by CJB
C.J.Brady
All in all, it looks like you're a bit of a twat (rhyming with mat)



Grim
john
2009-04-16 21:05:25 UTC
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Post by CJB
"Nowt for owt" with Amazon
There is a saying in the North of England of 'nowt for owt'
(rhyming with 'out'). That is 'there is nothing for free.'
I thought it was "owt for nowt"?

"anything for nothing "

IOW I'll have anything if it's going for free

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