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Reducing the asking price for a new car
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john royce
2009-08-17 16:52:12 UTC
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Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini, buying
in London (u.k.) ?

A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw dealers
on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the basic price on
the car? Is this really the case?

Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the state of
the economy etc,etc. Thanks for advice.
Adrian
2009-08-17 17:02:14 UTC
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Post by john royce
Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini,
buying in London (u.k.) ?
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw
dealers on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the
basic price on the car? Is this really the case?
Clearly, for that dealer, it is.

Unless you're suggesting they lied and might change their mind.
Post by john royce
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit
<passes telephone & Mini dealer list>
Lou
2009-08-17 17:30:31 UTC
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Post by john royce
Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini,
buying in London (u.k.) ?
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw
dealers on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the basic
price on the car? Is this really the case?
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the state
of the economy etc,etc. Thanks for advice.
In the US, the way to bring down the price of a new car, of any make and
model, is to make a counteroffer, and haggle from there. Do your research
first, before talking with the dealer - once you've made a counteroffer, the
final price isn't going to be any lower. If you're not satisfied with where
you end up, get up and walk out. Try at some other dealer.

The state of the economy has nothing to do with it - the dealership has some
bottom line price in mind, and is unlikely to sell at a loss regardless of
the economy.

Why do you have "new" in quotes?
Miike G
2009-08-17 17:47:15 UTC
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Post by john royce
Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini,
buying in London (u.k.) ?
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw
dealers on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the basic
price on the car? Is this really the case?
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the state
of the economy etc,etc. Thanks for advice.
The price of new Minis appears to be unnafected by the economic downturn.
Even very late low mileage s/h ones are fetching near new prices.
As long as buyers are prepared to pay the book price, why should dealers
offer discounts?.
Mike.
Rod Speed
2009-08-17 18:12:02 UTC
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Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini, buying in London (u.k.) ?
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw dealers on what they charge for extras, but will
not compete on the basic price on the car? Is this really the case?
Try ringing other dealers and asking them about that.

It may be the case if there is plenty of demand for that model
compared with the supply.
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the state of the economy etc,etc.
I rang the vast bulk of the dealers for the car I wanted
to buy in my state capital, got the best price and rubbed
my local dealer's nose in the best price I could find.

The dealer principal did claim that he would have to pay
a higher delivery charge than those others, including the
dealer in the rather bigger next town, so I basically got
the best price I could find with the higher delivery charge.

That was before the complete implosion of the world financial system and
was with a car which had plenty of supply tho, a Hyundai Getz, in Australia.
George
2009-08-18 12:21:14 UTC
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Post by john royce
Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini, buying
in London (u.k.) ?
What is the significance of 'new'?
Post by john royce
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw dealers
on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the basic price on
the car? Is this really the case?
Why not ask other dealers? Thats pretty much how you find conditions
local to you for whatever you are buying.
Post by john royce
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the state of
the economy etc,etc. Thanks for advice.
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Zimmy
2009-08-18 13:34:35 UTC
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Post by George
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Yes, not many Jaguar owners call it "Tata Jaguar".

Z
unknown
2009-08-18 15:22:37 UTC
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Post by George
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Really? Can you point to the vehicle that was badged "Lexus" that was
assembled by BMC/BLMC/BL/Austin-Rover/Rover before Toyota started
building them? I seem to have missed that particular model.
George
2009-08-18 19:02:37 UTC
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Post by George
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Really? Can you point to the vehicle that was badged "Lexus" that was
assembled by BMC/BLMC/BL/Austin-Rover/Rover before Toyota started
building them? I seem to have missed that particular model.
Can you point me to a place where I can buy a new Mini that is made by
*any* of the prior owners of that brand?
Adrian
2009-08-18 20:17:52 UTC
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Post by George
Post by unknown
Post by George
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Really? Can you point to the vehicle that was badged "Lexus" that was
assembled by BMC/BLMC/BL/Austin-Rover/Rover before Toyota started
building them? I seem to have missed that particular model.
Can you point me to a place where I can buy a new Mini that is made by
*any* of the prior owners of that brand?
It's fairly easy to find people who'll provide you with ones that are
"new", though.
unknown
2009-08-18 22:23:50 UTC
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Post by George
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Post by George
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Really? Can you point to the vehicle that was badged "Lexus" that was
assembled by BMC/BLMC/BL/Austin-Rover/Rover before Toyota started
building them? I seem to have missed that particular model.
Can you point me to a place where I can buy a new Mini that is made by
*any* of the prior owners of that brand?
What's that got to do with the price of fish? The Mini was manufactured
both by BL and by BMW. It's necessary to make a distinction between the
two.
George
2009-08-19 01:56:15 UTC
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Post by George
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Post by George
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Really? Can you point to the vehicle that was badged "Lexus" that was
assembled by BMC/BLMC/BL/Austin-Rover/Rover before Toyota started
building them? I seem to have missed that particular model.
Can you point me to a place where I can buy a new Mini that is made by
*any* of the prior owners of that brand?
What's that got to do with the price of fish? The Mini was manufactured
both by BL and by BMW. It's necessary to make a distinction between the
two.
You said you were buying a 'new' car. Maybe thats why I am confused
because new generally means recently manufactured and unused. Maybe
'new' means something else to you. You called me on my statement. I then
asked if you could point me to a place where I can buy a *new* Mini that
is made by *any* of the prior owners. You can't because it hasn't been
manufactured by anyone else since ~ 2000
unknown
2009-08-19 10:10:53 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Ttoommy
2009-08-21 06:56:53 UTC
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Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry

Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking - new

Prawn#
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
unknown
2009-08-21 09:19:01 UTC
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You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
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Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking - new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
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Prawn#
Charlie
2009-08-21 13:41:37 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
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Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Duke
2009-08-24 20:28:00 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
Charlie
2009-08-24 21:50:46 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
RTGF
Duke
2009-08-25 06:47:22 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
RTGF
Seems you admit your crimes
Charlie
2009-08-25 07:51:48 UTC
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Post by Charlie
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
RTGF
Seems you admit your crimes
SDER
Duke
2009-08-26 17:31:20 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
RTGF
Seems you admit your crimes
SDER
MORON!
Richard
2009-08-26 18:40:24 UTC
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
RTGF
Seems you admit your crimes
SDER
MORON!
GEDS
Duke
2009-08-27 17:55:03 UTC
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Post by Charlie
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Post by George
You said you were buying a 'new' car.
No I didn't.
Oh Filth caught by your own mean spirited pedantry
I wasn't "caught" by anything, you tuppeny retard. I did not say that I
was buying a new car, that was someone else.
Post by Ttoommy
Look at the subject line and then deny we're talking -   new
Look at what "George" said and try to understand it, you drooling
halfwit.
Post by Ttoommy
Prawn#
Maybe better to be a "drooling halfwit" than someone with a string of
failed business ventures behind them, many of which have meant OAPs
losing considerable amounts of money!
Odd, that's exactly whyyou got closed down by trading standards. One
can only wonder why you would draw attention to your own crimes.
RTGF
Seems you admit your crimes
SDER
MORON!
GEDS
Still having trouble with your "wongful" (sic) spelling, I see!
Clueless Chris strikes again!

Rod Speed
2009-08-18 18:10:24 UTC
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Post by john royce
Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini,
buying in London (u.k.) ?
What is the significance of 'new'?
Post by john royce
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw
dealers on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the
basic price on the car? Is this really the case?
Why not ask other dealers? Thats pretty much how you find conditions
local to you for whatever you are buying.
Post by john royce
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the
state of the economy etc,etc. Thanks for advice.
BTW Mini is a brand. Saying "BMW Mini" is like saying "Toyota Lexus".
Nothing like when there are other minis other than the BMW.
Zimmy
2009-08-18 13:27:05 UTC
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Post by john royce
Is there any way to bring down the asking price on a 'new' BMW mini,
buying in London (u.k.) ?
A local bmw dealer has just said they will *compete* with other bmw
dealers on what they charge for extras, but will not compete on the basic
price on the car? Is this really the case?
Is there any way to beat down the price a bit, bearing in mind the state
of the economy etc,etc. Thanks for advice.
Yes, go for the daft estate with the door on the wrong side, bound to get a
reduction on that.

Alternatively buy something less popular, supply and demand and all that.

Z
Ttoommy
2009-08-18 18:30:24 UTC
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Post by Zimmy
Yes, go for the daft estate with the door on the wrong side, bound to get
a reduction on that.
Alternatively buy something less popular, supply and demand and all that.
Z
You get a big discount on a car andi t means its not "popular" resulting in
low prices when you come to sell it

make sure you have air con. and the 5 year service plan (£150 when buying
new?) means you will be a happy bunny when its time to p/ex (compared with
just about every other car on the market)

BMW in the downturn just made less cars to protect their image and 2nh hand
values
unknown
2009-08-18 18:53:02 UTC
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Post by Ttoommy
BMW in the downturn just made less cars to protect their image and 2nh hand
values
BMW cars were actually smaller "in the downturn" were they Toomy? What
did they do, lop 10% off the size of the 3-series? Is it like the way
that Mars bars get smaller in a recession?
Ttoommy
2009-08-19 07:23:52 UTC
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I would call you a pedant but you'd only get your solicitor to sort me out
'cos its libel - innit

You can never see a belt without wishing to hit below it can you - I KNOW
that says more about you than me luv;-)
Post by unknown
BMW in the downturn just made fewer (OK?) cars to protect their image
and 2nd hand
values
BMW cars were actually smaller "in the downturn" were they Toomy? What
did they do, lop 10% off the size of the 3-series? Is it like the way
my dick got smaller in a recession?
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