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Taking your telly to the council tip.
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Ian Field
2011-05-17 20:33:36 UTC
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Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
recycled in a lawful manner!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/


Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has to
sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and the
home & garden waste in the compacter skips.

Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends up
with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.

There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as needs
att'n or spares or repair.

If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.
F*ck Off Uncle Dave
2011-05-17 20:44:49 UTC
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On May 17, 9:33 pm, "Ian Field" <***@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
> recycled in a lawful manner!
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/
>
> Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has to
> sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and the
> home & garden waste in the compacter skips.
>
> Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends up
> with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.
>
> There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
> scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
> although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as needs
> att'n or spares or repair.
>
> If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.

The trouble is finding the time to do it when you really need to get
rid of it in a hurry. We've spent three months refurbishing our "new"
house and were sure a lot of stuff that ended up at the local tip -
e.g. doors - could have been reused but given the choice between
taking time out to draft an advert or getting on with the job (and
life and work) won out. We did give a lot of unwanted furniture to a
local charity that sets up homes for homeless people and suchlike.
Now here's a thing, because it didn't have some fire retardant sticker
on it they couldn't take the bed settee - good quality, bought in
Germany for about five hundred quid fifteen years ago and used more
for show than anything else so in excellent condition and ideal for
somebody with a bedsit. We made a donation and they took it to the
tip for us. Sometimes common sense should win out over H & S I
think. Terrible waste of a good piece of furniture :-(

F*UD
DVH
2011-05-17 21:42:11 UTC
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"Ian Field" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
> recycled in a lawful manner!
>

Where there is waste there is racketeering.

I expect there's a reason for that, but it holds true all over the developed
world.

It seems to get worse the tighter the regulation.
F*ck Off Uncle Dave
2011-05-18 07:48:17 UTC
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On May 17, 10:42 pm, "DVH" <***@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:
> "Ian Field" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>
> news:HYAAp.1423$***@newsfe02.ams2...
>
> > Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
> > recycled in a lawful manner!
>
> Where there is waste there is racketeering.

It is what it is.

Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in. Bad-a-bing bad-
a-boom.

F*UD
Mark
2011-05-18 09:51:27 UTC
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 21:33:36 +0100, "Ian Field"
<***@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
>recycled in a lawful manner!
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/
>
>
>Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has to
>sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and the
>home & garden waste in the compacter skips.
>
>Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends up
>with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.
>
>There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
>scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
>although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as needs
>att'n or spares or repair.
>
>If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.

See my post on uktdt.
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2011-05-18 11:22:13 UTC
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Maria
2011-05-18 16:45:06 UTC
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On 17/05/2011 21:33, Ian Field wrote:
> Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
> recycled in a lawful manner!
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/
>
>
> Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has to
> sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and the
> home& garden waste in the compacter skips.
>
> Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends up
> with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.
>
> There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
> scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
> although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as needs
> att'n or spares or repair.
>
> If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.
>

I had a beautiful Finlux telly that was only three years old when the
tube went - I put it on Ebay for 50p - when it didn't go, I put it on
Freecycle. No takers at all sadly. I had to tip it in the end.
Ian Field
2011-05-18 17:24:06 UTC
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"Maria" <***@theshoe.org> wrote in message
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> On 17/05/2011 21:33, Ian Field wrote:
>> Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
>> recycled in a lawful manner!
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/
>>
>>
>> Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has
>> to
>> sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and
>> the
>> home& garden waste in the compacter skips.
>>
>> Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends
>> up
>> with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.
>>
>> There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
>> scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
>> although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as
>> needs
>> att'n or spares or repair.
>>
>> If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.
>>
>
> I had a beautiful Finlux telly that was only three years old when the tube
> went - I put it on Ebay for 50p - when it didn't go, I put it on
> Freecycle. No takers at all sadly. I had to tip it in the end.
>

Who told you the tube had gone?! - I've heard that more often than; "the on
off switch don't work".

"the tubes gone" usually means someone would rather sell you another telly
and take the old one away to repair and sell on for a handsome profit.

"the on off switch don't work" usually means the switch mode PSU has blown
up and the customer has convinced themselves it must be a cheap repair -
although in practice its often easier to repair the PSU than get hold of the
exact right replacement switch.

Every once in every 3rd or 4th blue moon - said fault description turns out
to be accurate.
Dave Moorman
2011-05-21 05:14:43 UTC
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In article <7hTAp.7078$***@newsfe30.ams2>,
"Ian Field" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "Maria" <***@theshoe.org> wrote in message
> news:prGdnbb5rKADak7QnZ2dnUVZ8r-***@bt.com...
> > On 17/05/2011 21:33, Ian Field wrote:
> >> Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
> >> recycled in a lawful manner!
> >>
> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/
> >>
> >>
> >> Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has
> >> to
> >> sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and
> >> the
> >> home& garden waste in the compacter skips.
> >>
> >> Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends
> >> up
> >> with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.
> >>
> >> There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
> >> scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
> >> although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as
> >> needs
> >> att'n or spares or repair.
> >>
> >> If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.
> >>
> >
> > I had a beautiful Finlux telly that was only three years old when the tube
> > went - I put it on Ebay for 50p - when it didn't go, I put it on
> > Freecycle. No takers at all sadly. I had to tip it in the end.
> >
>
> Who told you the tube had gone?! - I've heard that more often than; "the on
> off switch don't work".
>
> "the tubes gone" usually means someone would rather sell you another telly
> and take the old one away to repair and sell on for a handsome profit.
>
> "the on off switch don't work" usually means the switch mode PSU has blown
> up and the customer has convinced themselves it must be a cheap repair -
> although in practice its often easier to repair the PSU than get hold of the
> exact right replacement switch.
>
> Every once in every 3rd or 4th blue moon - said fault description turns out
> to be accurate.

That's the truth. I spent some time fixing CB radios. I don't know how
many times people came in saying there was something wrong with the
on/off switch.
Joe
2011-05-21 12:05:21 UTC
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On Sat, 21 May 2011 00:14:43 -0500
Dave Moorman <***@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> That's the truth. I spent some time fixing CB radios. I don't know
> how many times people came in saying there was something wrong with
> the on/off switch.

And on a philosophical level, they were absolutely correct. An 'on/off'
switch which fails to turn the equipment on and off is indeed faulty.

Whether the actual blame lies with the switch or elsewhere is another
matter, but the same approach is invariably used to describe human
behaviour. Actions which can clearly be ascribed only to hundreds or
thousands of people are often blamed on one, who is often not even one
of those hundreds or thousands.

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Joe
Maria
2011-05-21 12:19:17 UTC
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On 18/05/2011 18:24, Ian Field wrote:
> "Maria"<***@theshoe.org> wrote in message
> news:prGdnbb5rKADak7QnZ2dnUVZ8r-***@bt.com...
>> On 17/05/2011 21:33, Ian Field wrote:
>>> Taking your e-waste to the council tip doesn't allways mean it will be
>>> recycled in a lawful manner!
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0116gw0/Panorama_Track_My_Trash/
>>>
>>>
>>> Most UK council tips are actually contracted out and the contractor has
>>> to
>>> sell anything anyone will buy to pay for disposal of the WEEE waste and
>>> the
>>> home& garden waste in the compacter skips.
>>>
>>> Budgets are unsurprisingly rather tight and WEEE disposal invariably ends
>>> up
>>> with the lowest bidder - who most likely exports it to W. Africa.
>>>
>>> There is a way you can at least delay your unwanted items entry into the
>>> scrap system; you can get rid of almost anything on freegle or freecycle,
>>> although its good form to indicate if an item is not working such as
>>> needs
>>> att'n or spares or repair.
>>>
>>> If you want to sell the item there's allways Swapshop.
>>>
>>
>> I had a beautiful Finlux telly that was only three years old when the tube
>> went - I put it on Ebay for 50p - when it didn't go, I put it on
>> Freecycle. No takers at all sadly. I had to tip it in the end.
>>
>
> Who told you the tube had gone?! - I've heard that more often than; "the on
> off switch don't work".
>
> "the tubes gone" usually means someone would rather sell you another telly
> and take the old one away to repair and sell on for a handsome profit.
>
> "the on off switch don't work" usually means the switch mode PSU has blown
> up and the customer has convinced themselves it must be a cheap repair -
> although in practice its often easier to repair the PSU than get hold of the
> exact right replacement switch.
>
> Every once in every 3rd or 4th blue moon - said fault description turns out
> to be accurate.
>

Point taken, but it was all green with lines across it, so I believed them!
Ian Field
2011-05-21 12:52:27 UTC
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